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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://doodlemeister.com/2009/08/31/granted/#comment-1146</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 02:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the thoughtful and reasoned comment, Susan. I&#039;m all for giving individual artists &quot;encouragement&quot; as long as what they&#039;re producing creates jobs or other tangible benefits for the wider community. For instance, I can imagine giving a $6,000 grant to a cartoonist teaching kids how to use simple shapes to draw cartoons. Wait a minute, I did that for 15 years and never once asked the government for help. Oh well, I guess it&#039;s too late. Hmmmmm — wonder if they hand out retroactive grants?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the thoughtful and reasoned comment, Susan. I&#8217;m all for giving individual artists &#8220;encouragement&#8221; as long as what they&#8217;re producing creates jobs or other tangible benefits for the wider community. For instance, I can imagine giving a $6,000 grant to a cartoonist teaching kids how to use simple shapes to draw cartoons. Wait a minute, I did that for 15 years and never once asked the government for help. Oh well, I guess it&#8217;s too late. Hmmmmm — wonder if they hand out retroactive grants?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Middaugh</title>
		<link>http://doodlemeister.com/2009/08/31/granted/#comment-1145</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Middaugh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a different point of view. The Maryland State Arts Council awards individual grants that are modest. Most are $1,000 or $3,000; the rare one is $6,000. To receive one, you need to submit completed work. A playwright, for example, submits a script, say, for a full-length play. In my opinion, these grants acknowledge that an individual has demonstrated talent and offer encouragement to keep going. Businesses receive tax breaks or tax incentives to do something or other. Why not give artists a break too?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a different point of view. The Maryland State Arts Council awards individual grants that are modest. Most are $1,000 or $3,000; the rare one is $6,000. To receive one, you need to submit completed work. A playwright, for example, submits a script, say, for a full-length play. In my opinion, these grants acknowledge that an individual has demonstrated talent and offer encouragement to keep going. Businesses receive tax breaks or tax incentives to do something or other. Why not give artists a break too?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://doodlemeister.com/2009/08/31/granted/#comment-1130</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 01:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for sharing you personal experience with the grant-making/gallery scene, Julia. And I liked your comment (appreciation for) the &quot;funny&quot; line quality of the Mr. Fish cartoon. Some years back I gave a presentation at the University of Baltimore titled &quot;The Postmodern Cartoon,&quot; and in it one of the things I talked about was the trend to gag cartoons that used artfully &quot;crude&quot; line work on purpose; that is, the cartoonist&#039;s using that style were rebelling against much of the slick academically well-drawn stuff that had gone before. And then there were others, of course (like Yours Truly), who just couldn&#039;t draw very well and became sort of low-level postmodern by accident. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for sharing you personal experience with the grant-making/gallery scene, Julia. And I liked your comment (appreciation for) the &#8220;funny&#8221; line quality of the Mr. Fish cartoon. Some years back I gave a presentation at the University of Baltimore titled &#8220;The Postmodern Cartoon,&#8221; and in it one of the things I talked about was the trend to gag cartoons that used artfully &#8220;crude&#8221; line work on purpose; that is, the cartoonist&#8217;s using that style were rebelling against much of the slick academically well-drawn stuff that had gone before. And then there were others, of course (like Yours Truly), who just couldn&#8217;t draw very well and became sort of low-level postmodern by accident.</p>
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		<title>By: Juia Cates</title>
		<link>http://doodlemeister.com/2009/08/31/granted/#comment-1129</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Juia Cates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 00:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Jim.  That&#039;s a funny cartoon - even the line quality is funny somehow.  I have such mixed feelings about pretty much every part of the art world, including the grant awarding part of the pie.  I was just turned down recently for really silly reasons for an individual grant I applied for, but I had mixed feelings about even applying for it.  I worked at the National Gallery of Art in D.C. for six years, and got quite an education in the seamy underbelly of the art world.  And then in some of the good parts too; the unnoticed gems in the permanent collections and truly interesting, dedicated staff.  But the grant-making and gallery scenes are definitely not meritocracies, that&#039;s for sure, and truly full of self-love as the cartoon indicates.  Rant on, doodle on.  Have a good week.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Jim.  That&#8217;s a funny cartoon &#8211; even the line quality is funny somehow.  I have such mixed feelings about pretty much every part of the art world, including the grant awarding part of the pie.  I was just turned down recently for really silly reasons for an individual grant I applied for, but I had mixed feelings about even applying for it.  I worked at the National Gallery of Art in D.C. for six years, and got quite an education in the seamy underbelly of the art world.  And then in some of the good parts too; the unnoticed gems in the permanent collections and truly interesting, dedicated staff.  But the grant-making and gallery scenes are definitely not meritocracies, that&#8217;s for sure, and truly full of self-love as the cartoon indicates.  Rant on, doodle on.  Have a good week.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Parker</title>
		<link>http://doodlemeister.com/2009/08/31/granted/#comment-1127</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick Parker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s exactly the kind of artwork which does not need to be subsidized by the taxpayers. Funny and well-drawn too!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s exactly the kind of artwork which does not need to be subsidized by the taxpayers. Funny and well-drawn too!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://doodlemeister.com/2009/08/31/granted/#comment-1125</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another brave soul! Great comment, Tom, and much appreciated by Yours Truly. As for me and Parade Magazine, I&#039;d love to sell (out) to them but gave up submitting cartoons directly to publications some years back. I just got tired of running back and forth to the post office. (And not selling all that many no matter how often I ran back and forth.) Now I simply upload my cartoons to CartoonStock.com in London and let them take care of the marketing. Of course they get 50%, but there&#039;s usually enough most months to pay my utilities.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another brave soul! Great comment, Tom, and much appreciated by Yours Truly. As for me and Parade Magazine, I&#8217;d love to sell (out) to them but gave up submitting cartoons directly to publications some years back. I just got tired of running back and forth to the post office. (And not selling all that many no matter how often I ran back and forth.) Now I simply upload my cartoons to CartoonStock.com in London and let them take care of the marketing. Of course they get 50%, but there&#8217;s usually enough most months to pay my utilities.</p>
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		<title>By: tom chalkley</title>
		<link>http://doodlemeister.com/2009/08/31/granted/#comment-1123</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tom chalkley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jim, I have ALWAYS felt this way; when government subsidizes artists it BUYS THEM OFF.  Of course, I&#039;m a sometime commercial artist -- a whore, if you will -- and I&#039;d rather gov&#039;t money go to art than to bombs, but the community-arts programs satisfy both my complaints.  As long as artists are doing self-indulgent, navel-gazing, socially irrelevant art, government is happy to keep them busy. I despise artists who think they are special creations. Electricians -- THEY are special! 
BTW: Do you send cartoons to Parade mag? They&#039;re using freelancers and your stuff is excellent.  TC]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, I have ALWAYS felt this way; when government subsidizes artists it BUYS THEM OFF.  Of course, I&#8217;m a sometime commercial artist &#8212; a whore, if you will &#8212; and I&#8217;d rather gov&#8217;t money go to art than to bombs, but the community-arts programs satisfy both my complaints.  As long as artists are doing self-indulgent, navel-gazing, socially irrelevant art, government is happy to keep them busy. I despise artists who think they are special creations. Electricians &#8212; THEY are special!<br />
BTW: Do you send cartoons to Parade mag? They&#8217;re using freelancers and your stuff is excellent.  TC</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://doodlemeister.com/2009/08/31/granted/#comment-1128</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 23:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I’m getting some interesting comments on this post, but most of them off the record via e-mail. Thanks for having the courage to stand up in public on such a touchy “arty” subject on the blog, Jacquie. You have always had a brave heart.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m getting some interesting comments on this post, but most of them off the record via e-mail. Thanks for having the courage to stand up in public on such a touchy “arty” subject on the blog, Jacquie. You have always had a brave heart.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacquie Roland</title>
		<link>http://doodlemeister.com/2009/08/31/granted/#comment-1122</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jacquie Roland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, Jim... what were we, separated at birth?
I agree with you wholeheartedly . . . which will make me quite unappreciated by the folks on my block.  Community grants ARE another thing entirely, but it used to make me absolutely NUTZOID to see individuals given grants, which quite often they used to p*** on the very people who GAVE them the grant, by deliberately creating really outrageous, unacceptable work.  Then they spent the rest of their time screaming &quot;. . . discrimination! Censorship!&quot;  My response was always the same . . . &quot;if you want to do what YOU want to  do . . . no matter HOW outrageous . . . don&#039;t take the money.&quot;  Simple. It amazes me how many people don&#039;t seem to understand that.  - sigh - I&#039;m going to mount the Mr. Fish cartoon in my studio.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Jim&#8230; what were we, separated at birth?<br />
I agree with you wholeheartedly . . . which will make me quite unappreciated by the folks on my block.  Community grants ARE another thing entirely, but it used to make me absolutely NUTZOID to see individuals given grants, which quite often they used to p*** on the very people who GAVE them the grant, by deliberately creating really outrageous, unacceptable work.  Then they spent the rest of their time screaming &#8220;. . . discrimination! Censorship!&#8221;  My response was always the same . . . &#8220;if you want to do what YOU want to  do . . . no matter HOW outrageous . . . don&#8217;t take the money.&#8221;  Simple. It amazes me how many people don&#8217;t seem to understand that.  &#8211; sigh &#8211; I&#8217;m going to mount the Mr. Fish cartoon in my studio.</p>
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